Further thoughts and research regarding parking allocation On Canowie Road/Manor Park

Further thoughts and research regarding parking allocation On Canowie Road/Manor Park

This very helpful and considered contribution has kindly been provided by one of our residents:

New residential road development

There are no legislative or absolute figures for road widths laid down in print, only planning guidelines.

As a rule of thumb, the minimum requirements referred to by all the authorities that he deals with for new roads with cars parked on one side are;

Kerb to kerb, 5.5m

Width of a car, 2m

So…a road 5.5m wide can have a car parked on one side leaving a 3.5m gap for moving traffic.

This is for new road development though, not our old roads.

Existing old residential roads in Redland / Cotham etc

Case Study Westfield Park off Whiteladies Rd in the CN RPZ earlier this week has a section that dog legs around to Ashgrove Rd which is very tight.

However, cars were parked on BOTH sides of the road and NOT on the pavement.

The road kerb to kerb is 6.15m.

On Manor Park, the lower road section between Canowie Rd is around 6.2m.

The section of Manor Park adjoining Redland Road below the roundabout is around 6.3m kerb to kerb. Ie the road width on both sections of Manor Park is greater than that on Westfield Park…where they park on both sides of the road, not on the pavement, and have one-way traffic.

As a guide, a typical BMW 3 series is 1.9m wide (not incl mirrors)

A Ford Transit, which is the model for many ambulances has a width of under 2m not incl mirrors.

There Therefore seems no reason, based on precedent and existing parking bays marked on roads in the vicinity, why there could not have car parking bays marked out on both sides along Manor Park with these two provisos;

1.     For safety and ease of access reasons, that the road becomes one-way only, and

2.     Pinch points such as the north bound section of Manor Park curving westward and the junction with Canowie Rd have double yellows on the corners allowing vehicles room to turn.

If two-way traffic is desired by residents, then parking would almost certainly be restricted to one side of the road only by any new Highways involvement.

Students

From the Bristol CC website:

It would seem that students are being considered as any other household, 

ie, in general, only 2 (or 3 in exceptional circumstances in some areas) x permits per household.

It cannot have escaped anyone’s notice that during the recent half term there were always spare parking spaces on Canowie Rd during the evening.  Ie, students going away for half term had freed up spaces.

But please note there were still hardly ever spare spaces during the working day as commuters avoiding parking costs in RPZs were still using Canowie Road.

Students from RPZ areas are definitely leaving their cars on Canowie and Manor Park during term time.  This will stop if we have our own RPZ.

Parking Chaos Photo's!

Feel free to comment using the comments box below!!

 Cyclist unable to push her bike up the road!

 Bad Kerb parking - angle 1

Bad Kerb parking - angle 1

Message from Fi Hance, local Lib Dem Councillor

Resident Parking Scheme update from Redland Neighbourhood

Resident Parking Scheme update from Redland Neighbourhood forum on Tuesday 23rd September (which unfortunately no Canowie Road residents were able to attend)

It was reported that Jon Toy, Bristol City Council's Residents’ parking officer informed the meeting, confirming that there will be a review in early 2015, 6 months after the launch. Everyone will receive a postcard, informing them how they can give their views. This will include the top half of Redland ward that decided not to be part of the scheme. A view is sought as to whether the new scheme is impacting on them.

It was also discussed amongst other points (not relevant) that

Question: For those in the RPZ: Can we park in neighbouring schemes? : No. The idea is to reduce commuting. This wouldn't help. You can only use your own area.

After the break-out sessions feedback was given amongst other things regarding: that there is still a problem in the RPZ area of parking opposite junctions.  Jon is to look into specific examples, the proposed crossing on Coldharbour road is being consulted on at the present.

Details in the public domain for Jon Toy are: 

Jon Toy, Residents’ Parking Stakeholder Liaison, Bristol City Council

Tel: 0117 90 37098 

E-mail: jon.toy@bristol.gov.uk

RPZ plan for Redland enters last stage of consultation

RPZ plan for Redland enters last stage of consultation

As reported by Rebecca Day in the Bishopston Voice

A period of formal consultation over an altered parking zone is to start this month for those within the new Redland boundary.

Following previous, informal engagement, the zone has undergone “significant” changes,  making it smaller than the original proposal. The zone now excludes Coldharbour Road and the north-west of Redland Green.

A total of 387 responses were received after the first round of consultation, with around 80 per cent from the north of Redland confirming they did not want or feel they needed the scheme.

Any objections raised throughout the formal consultation period will be taken into consideration, and amendments to the scheme will be put forward in the spring.

This will then be followed by a six-month review once the zone has been implemented.

A recent Redland neighborhood forum meeting gave residents an opportunity to discuss the revised scheme.

One resident, who preferred to remain anonymous, said she was disappointed that there would only be 30 minutes’ free parking. She said half an hour would not be enough time for disabled people who do not qualify for a blue badge or elderly people to go shopping.

“It would be much more innovative and neighborhood friendly to have a two-hour free period instead," she explained. “It would also provide enough time for people to visit the gym and see to their allotments.”

An allotment representative also said it would be “totally unviable” to make allotment holders pay to park, claiming that many of them did not live locally.

A local bowling club also raised concerns about the limited amount of time given for members to park. A maximum time of three hours would be allowed for those using a pay and display machine, but bowls matches last at least four hours, said the representative.

Bristol City Council officer Jon Toy attended the meeting and emphasised that the council’s aim was to “protect residents from long-stay commuters”.

He confirmed that letters will be going out to all houses during the consultation period for residents to provide feedback.

Visit www.bristol.gov.uk/page/transport-and-streets/redland-rd for more information.

Meeting Minutes 14th October 2014

CANOWIE ROAD, REDLAND

RESIDENTS' MEETING TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL INCLUSION IN RPZ

Residents' meeting held on 14th October.

At meeting

x11 present expressed their view that they wished Canowie Road to be in the RPZ

x2 present were undecided

x1against

The majority of those attending wish to have Canowie Road included in the RPZ

Specific issues raised and potential solutions discussed:

Issue 1: day and night congestion on Canowie Road rather than just day, due to the volume of residential cars as well as commuter vehicles using the road (high in particular due to the no.8 bus stop at the end of the road)

Potential solution:  an extension of the hours that the RPZ would be enforced beyond 9-5pm to include evening hours (e.g up to 9pm as in Hotwells) to enable residents to still park outside their homes.

Issue 2:  the volume of cars vs width of road in Manor Park Road (which it was assumed would also be included in RPZ with Canowie Road and St. Oswald's Road?)

Potential solution:  an individual approach to each road would be necessary such as

-    zoned areas of residents' parking rather than demarcated spaces

-    the use of one-way systems to discourage excessive traffic including

-    Canowie Road and St Oswald's Road one way from Redland Road to Coldharbour Road (against the flow of commuter traffic)

-    Manor Park one way to ensure enough space for both parking and access by emergency vehicles

Issue 3:  safety issues on intersection of Canowie Road and Manor Park Road

-    hazard in terms of both visibility for traffic, safety for pedestrians and access for public service vehicles (including bin lorries and emergency vehicles)

Potential solution: double yellow lines on intersection between Canowie Road and Manor Park Road

Residents also wished clarification over

-    UWE's and Bristol University's policy over students' access to resident’s car parking permits, due to the number of student houses on Manor Park Road.

-    the council's policy regarding parking on dropped curbs and in front of garages

Pictures of Parking in Canowie Road after RPZ

Cones needed to safeguard parking space outside residents house

Dangerous corner parking, car across line and van parked out into road blocking access and visibility

Van right across the white lines blocking pedestrian access and driver visibility and safety to turn

Cars blocking the pavement for pedestrians and access to turn into road

Double whamy! Both cars completely blocking pedestrian access, parked over junction lines, dangerous for road access too!

Residents access to reverse out of drive impeded and car is also blocking in red car to left.

The new commuters: parking on Manor Park to unload bicycle and cycle in to town from here. Done in such a hurry that bike holding arm left in the air! Others have been seen getting Brompton bikes out of their cars too.

Dustbin men agreeing they can't get up manor park because of parking, note car to left parked over junction line making this harder and blocking pedestrian access

Delivery van finds no-where to park on C.R or M.P so on rainy day blocks both the pavement and access for any vehicles turning out of or into M.P: straight forwardly dangerous!